Saturday, July 9, 2011

On St. Anselm's Ontological Argument

I ran across something yesterday that disputed the validity of Anselm's ontological argument using the original (and long refuted) objection that says "I can conceive of a <insert category/type of thing here> than which no greater can be thought, but that doesn't mean it exists." This was originally proposed as an island by one of Anselm's contemporaries, Gaunilo, and Anselm swiftly refuted it.


When I first learned the argument in college, and the objections, I have to say that it seemed then and still seems now to be sound to me. (BTW, this is one of the best plain-language explanations of it I've found.) That said, I have always felt that the argument lacks compelling force. On the one hand, it seems cogent, and I don't see anything wrong with it in itself; on the other hand, it has a feel of verbal/logical trickery to it. You're left feeling like it makes sense and yet that it doesn't. It's the same sense you have when you see a magic trick, and you know that it's not magic, but you can't figure out how it isn't magic. Bertrand Russell seemed to agree with this, saying that it's much easier to be persuaded that ontological arguments are no good than to say exactly what's wrong with them. I think the reason it feels wrong is that it is so simple and yet the consequences of it being true are so disproportionate to its simplicity--it can't be that easy. But this sense doesn't mean the argument isn't true or that it cannot be compelling. In any case, people have tried and keep trying to figure out if it is indeed valid--and even people of faith differ.


Kant argued that existence isn't a property of a thing, so you can't really "add" it to the concept of that-than-which-no-greater-can-be-thought. That's why he thinks it doesn't work (from what I can tell). The problem I have with this objection is that I don't think he establishes that existence is not in fact something that can be added, even if it isn't a formal property. We all understand the distinction between thoughts and things that exist "in reality," as Anselm himself points out. Kant says that this existence is empirical, something involving the senses that we experience, which is of course a very subjective point of view.


I would say rather that existence is something that can be experienced, and further, even science postulates the existence of things that we as humans cannot experience directly with our senses (e.g., subatomic particles, black holes, cosmic strings, planets in other solar systems, and so on). We can only experience them indirectly and reason about their existence from the observations we make. So things can "have being" without our experiencing them (or even potentially experiencing them) directly.


We implicitly give more value to things that we perceive to have being, rather than just concepts in our heads. So whether or not existence is a proper property or not, it is something that is valuable that not all concepts have. And we think it is better to have this existence than to be thought only. So in this respect Anselm's argument still holds sway.


The other objections I've seen all hinge around disputing the premise or definition of that than which no greater can be thought. One objection, already noted, is applying that concept to things in particular categories--islands, cats, etc. Even though this seems an obvious objection, it is also the most easily refuted. The proposition of the argument is that-than-which-no-greater-can-be-thought without further qualification. It's not the greatest island--we can conceive of something greater than an island. It's not the greatest cat, or human, or computer, or any particular type of thing. It is the greatest thing, across all categories, surpassing all categories. I would suggest saying "infinite good" might help understand why this objection doesn't apply.


Good is what is desirable. Obviously, we each have our own ideas about what is desirable, which is why the infinite qualifier is important--it easily accounts for all of our particular goods that we have in mind and surpasses them. And this ties in with the discussion above about existence--we generally perceive existence as a good, and that's why we can add it to (in a sense) the goodness of the infinite good concept--wouldn't it be better for the infinite good to actually exist? Of course!


The real trouble, if any exists, lies in the assumed definition being a definition of God. Let's set aside the question of God (and all the various ideas we have attached to that concept) and instead just consider the definition Anselm provides as referring to "some thing." Science fiction has done a good job in helping us to approximate this kind of thinking--offering up aliens (like the Q in Star Trek) who are for all intents and purposes like what many conceive of as God (or at least gods). Anyways, the point is that if we can suspend judgment on whether or not the definition pertains to "God" and just consider it at face value, it seems easier to accept the argument as valid, and as such it is not, as Rev. Neal asserts, a faith-based proposition.


On this count, it seems to me that the argument aptly proves the existence of this being, logically speaking. The trouble, as I said, comes when we make the jump from from such a being to any conventional notion of God, or more specifically, the God of the Christian religion. I will not deny that God, in the proper Christian sense, is an object of faith. I would say this is indeed by definition, and dogmatic in the Christian faith. And ipso facto, there are no proofs for his existence. The can be, on the other hand, proofs that lead one to faith in God because they demonstrate truths about him and/or our relationship to him.


This is not irrational, as faith is popularly conceived to be. It is not against reason or without reason--quite the opposite in fact. Faith is an act that uses reason as a launchpad. In function, this is not different from other beliefs that people hold--they are things for which they have little, if any, direct empirical evidence for and yet accept as true, because they seem to make sense in relation to or follow from other things they have experienced, because someone they trust/an authority told them, because it is commonly held by people they know, etc. The difference is in the object--faith is belief in the Divine. Faith can can be based on any or all of these, as well as on the ontological argument.


As for Anselm's argument, it does seem to prove the existence of the being that he posits. For those who do believe in God, they would associate the posited being with God, at least as a way to understand and think about God. For those who do not believe in God, I am not sure how they might grapple with the existence of such a being. For all of us, what bearing does this being have on us? What should our relationship to it be (if any)? Should we ignore it, or should we try to understand it better? How might we understand it better?


If we can accept the existence of such a being, and it seems to me that the ontological argument makes a strong rational case for doing so, then it seems to follow that we need to come to terms with its existence somehow. (Or we can choose to simply refuse to acknowledge the validity of the argument without demonstrating what's wrong with it! ;) ) If we choose to grapple with it, there are further proofs that lead from an initial concept of God such as this to the Christian conception of God, the Trinity, and Faith. I myself have followed them, and they are rational, certainly as rational as any reason I've seen to not believe in God. And in my estimation, the reasons for faith are more compelling, taken as a whole, than those for the lack of it.



10 comments:

  1. Interesting post, although I have never been fully persuaded by the ontological argument. It does assume some kind of universal standard for what is good that might be disputed (e.g. is it better to be non-physical than physical, and if so why is the Christian hope for bodily resurrection)

    It is also interesting you say that the ontological argument doesn't necessarily lead to the Christian God, because wasn't that what Anselm tried to do in Monologian - argue his way to the Trinity using reason alone?

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  2. Hi Mark, I'm sure you can find objectors to almost anything, but it's pretty universal that it would be better for the infinite good to exist than not. I would just look at someone and say "really?!?" if they said otherwise. I mean.. really?!? ;)

    Actually, I didn't say Anselm's ontological argument doesn't lead to God. I said it does not on its own prove that the God we Christians talk about exists; on its own, it just proves that than which no greater can be thought exists. I also said it does lead to belief in God (but again, not on its own--more must be reasoned through).

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  3. BTW, I don't see why it would be better to be non-physical than physical nor where that has been argued here.

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  4. yeah I suppose you can accept the ontological argument without taking it as far as Anselm did.

    Every now and then I wonder if the ontological argument couldn't also be used to prove the exisitence of an infinite evil, but I quickly end up confusing myself, with thoughts like whether evil is the absence or opposite of good.

    If the thought of something so bad that nothing could be worse can exist in our minds, does that mean it must exist, or that it must not exist, since not existing is worse than existing?

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  5. It must not exist! According to this line of reasoning anyways. :)

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  6. Ambrose,

    Thanks for introducing me to this argument. I had not heard or read it before. Unfortunately, your description assumed familiarity which I did not have, so I had to do a little reading (http://www.princeton.edu/~grosen/puc/phi203/ontological.html).

    Having now come to terms with the basic premise of the thought experiment, I propose the key intellectual dishonesty / fallible assumption in his premise is that something that exists is clearly "better" than something that doesn't exist. This is a meta concept, but we are comparing two things on two different levels. This is like saying "an Energizer is a better fuel source than trilithium because a AA batteries exists". But, in fact, this is not true when the metric by which "better" exists is a hypothetical evaluation. Although trilithium does not exists, when evaluated according to the environment in which it was built (Gene Roddenberry's imagination) it can power the interstellar voyage of a Galaxy-class vessel at warp speeds. Therefore, in this case, trilithium clearly excels above a 1.5v battery cell.

    A better analogy, perhaps, is to compare two items that find themselves under different physical constraints. Is an astronaut that can lift a 1000 kg weight on the moon "better" than a body builder who can only lift 500 kg on Earth? Although the astronaut is "better", the construct of his reality gives him advantage over the other.

    My point is, the being than which nothing better can be conceived in an atheist's imagination is better within the construct of the imagined realm than the god that doesn't exist in his reality because the imagined one is capable of performing feats in his imagination that this God cannot perform in reality.

    In other words, the point that "If something exists in the understanding alone, but can be conceived to exist in reality, then that thing can be conceived to be greater than it actually is" is fallacious because reality places different constraints upon an object than the mind does.

    Let's do another thought experiment to disprove this. If your ultimate conclusion always results in "God" because you are using the superlative "better" then let's use switch things up and attempt to prove the inverse of this experiment:

    What is "that than which nothing WORSE can be conceived"? And if such a thing can be conceived, then something worse must also exist. In my mind, every sentient being who ever lived going to Hell for a tortuous eternity while the natural universe imploding into a singularity would certainly qualify as the worst thing to happen. Will this happen? Our scripture tells us that many will be saved from such a fate and that God will create a new Heaven and a new Earth. So if we believe this to be true, but can conceive of a worse outcome (no new Heaven, no new Earth, all condemned for eternity) then arguably such an outcome is "worse". Of course, if such a supposition (an outcome that than which nothing worse can be conceived) can be conceived to be worse, then we must alter one of our presuppositions -- and of course if we are to follow Anselm's logic the presupposition to discard is that this outcome is not possible. (E.g., "The Christian has said in his heart that God some shall be saved.")

    Anyway, not sure if I explained that well, but hopefully you get the gist. If the only way to rationalize God is to disprove that he doesn't exist because of reductio ad absurdium, then the same logic can prove the existence of a fate worse than that prescribed in scripture, therefore forcing us as Christians to discard any hope that we may derive from scripture. That is not a logical argument that I am comfortable accepting, therefore I am inclined to discard one of the other assumptions of this argument.

    Sam Pfanstiel

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  7. Mark,

    Too funny. I wrote that before I saw your comment about infinite evil.

    Ambrose,

    You say "it must not exist". But according to this rationale it actually "must" exist. The important thing is to change the wording of the original presupposition, as in "that than which nothing WORSE can be conceived". The superlative of "worse" requires that the worst things possibly imaginable must exist. Ipso facto, argument invalid.

    Sam

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  8. Hi Sam!

    About the energizer argument, I think a more apt analogy would be "wouldn't it be better if trilithium actually exists?" Surely it would be. The ontological question is not comparing two different concepts--concepts having different properties; it's comparing existence with non-existence of one concept. I think that's why Kant had the objection he did, but as long as we don't get caught up on the formal definition of "property," it's not a problem. I mean, if we can agree that existence is not a property but it is actually something that can be had or not had (added or not added), then we can still speak in terms of the ontological argument.

    About the astronaut, the qualities of the astronaut in himself do not change with regard to his context, and being situated in one or the other context does not make him better in regards to himself--his own being. We are not speaking of things in relation to one another but rather of a thing in itself and its existence or non-existence.

    Lastly, the worst evil argument is indeed a hairy one. I think the crux of why it doesn't work, though, is again whether or not existence is a good. If we accept existence in itself as a good (which is assumed, I'll grant you), then the greatest evil cannot have it. You can say, in fact, that the greatest evil would be *better* (again, considered in itself and not in relation to other things) off existing than not existing. As such, it is not absurd to say that it does not actually exist--because its non-existence is actually worse for it. Therefore, it confirms that the greatest evil must not exist.

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  9. Hey Ambrose, nice post. Not really a direct answer, but your post inspired me to research this further, and I wrote this as a result: http://vulu.net/can-god-appear-in-a-puff-of-logic
    I thought you might enjoy it. Cheers!

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  10. Tell me Catholic experts in Catholic de fide teachings, is the ontological argument of St. Anselm ever been censured by the Roman Catholic Church as anathema?

    Pachomius
    pachomius2000(@)yahoo.com.sg

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